I need a mattress that can hold a 200 lb woman with fibromyalgia.
But, it also needs to be long lasting to replace a 16 year old pillow top double sided Stearns & Foster mattress. I can’t remember what collection the mattress was at the time, but it was the most expensive available at that time costing around $4,000, if that helps you determine what Stearns & Foster model I’m replacing.
Thank You, Heather
Good Morning Heather,
The first thing that you must understand is that a lot has changed since you bought your S&F mattress.
Tempurpedic now owns S&F.
What used to be the Cadillac of the Industry is now nothing more than expensive junk…all due to the memory foam upholstery, which was not used in your mattress.
In order to make a successful purchase, it’s imperative that you avoid any mattress upholstered with memory foam.
Memory foam is specifically designed to cause a mattress to need frequent replacing.
It wears quickly, sleeps hot, and off gasses the toxic chemicals from which memory foam is made…a health hazard to every living being in your home.
Also, there is no mattress made today that will be strong enough to support a heavy person and soft enough to comfort a person suffering with fibromyalgia.
Your purchase will need to include a mattress for support and a topper or toppers sufficient to ease your fibro pain.
This type of sleep system combination will prevent you from having to replace your mattress frequently….only replacing the topper(s) from time to time.
The best mattress to get for you is the Natura of Canada Greenspring Ultra Plush, which is not as soft as it sounds, due to the high quality of the components.
We flipped our Stearns and Foster mattress over and added a latex topper, as you suggested.
My husband is having less back pain, as you said. So, yay!
I, however, cannot sleep a wink.
It’s too firm for me and I am constantly tossing and turning trying to get comfortable.
And he can feel every move because the latex is buoyant.
I find myself waking up on my stomach and I have never, ever been a stomach sleeper. Strange!
Perhaps I need a better pillow? Any thoughts? I can’t find the right loft!
I can feel that I’m not aligned and I constantly move trying to get some rest.
I’m so ready to figure this out.
I’ve been seeing an orthopedic Dr for strange arthritis symptoms and they’re in the process of testing for rheumatoid. Perhaps that’s a reason for the sleep struggles?
I just want to be comfortable… and I think a pillow is the next step. Best for petite side sleeper?
Thanks again for everything!
Stomach sleeping is the most comfortable sleeping position on a too firm mattress.
If sticking with that mattress and sleeping position, a thin pillow is called for.
I would suggest going to Bed Bath and Beyond for that.
Finding the right pillow is extremely tricky. BB&B has a large selection and will take back anything they sell…allowing you to wade through their selection without having to keep any of them that don’t work for you.
Side sleeping on a hard surface won’t be possible without causing pain to the hip and shoulder.
So, there’s little point in getting a pillow for the side sleeping position.
While at BB&B, you might look into an “Alternative Down” comforter to further soften the surface, which might allow you to sleep on your side.
Real down flattens out much to quickly. Alternative down, aka synthetic down, keeps it’s loft much better.
If going with a new mattress, you’ll be able to use your existing box spring and latex topper. I recommend the Wolf Old Fashioned Two Sided Brolynn Plush Mattress.
We still have our 1979 top-of-the-line “flippable" Stearns and Foster mattress.
The innerspring portion still exhibits no sagging, but my wife feels the pads have developed a lumpiness.
We are trying the highly-rated Saatva hybrid Classic on a 180-day trial, but find that it has already developed annoying “valleys” that conform to where we sleep.
My question for you is if your topper might possibly serve to eliminate the lumpy feel of our Stearns and Foster if we were to simply use it over the top of the Stearns and Foster built-in pad.
(We have retained the Stearns and Foster mattress in case we decide to return the Saatva.)
Of course, this would require that your topper retain the inherent Stearns and Foster firmness, while masking the Stearns and Foster lumpiness.
I look forward to your response.
I always get a bit of a chuckle when I hear the phrase, “Highly Rated”.
I assume you’re talking about Consumer Reports, an organization that knows little about mattresses.
Several years ago, they published an issue about mattresses where the stated that the mattress industry was far too complex for them to understand…and offered no recommendations as a result.
They must have gotten quite a bit of flack for that bit of unusual honesty, because 6 months later they published an issue where they made recommendations based on interviews with 100 consumers in Denver.
And despite my one unheeded attempt to help them, they still know squat about mattresses.
I’m sorry. I can’t help you.
A latex topper will make the surface of your mattress more comfortable, but it will conform to the mattress and will not do what you’re hoping.
And despite your belief that your coils are fine after all these years, I can assure you that that are not.
Thanks for the fast response.
Out of curiosity, in what respect are coils "not fine after all these years” if they are not sagging?
Is there something else I need to be looking for?
As for ratings, the Saatva seemed to come out on top in multiple reviews.
If you have other suggestions, I am all ears because we are not happy with the “valley effect” nor with the “heating effect,” and we are well within the 180 day trial period.
S&F had been considered “The Cadillac of the Industry” for decades…even after Sealy bought them in 1983.
That ended in January of 2014, after Tempurpedic bought the Sealy/S&F company.
In fact, all of the name brands have been sold to investors.
The focus is no longer on quality. It’s on profits…selling more mattresses more frequently to the same people.
Advertising is what now drives this industry…selling mattresses upholstered with memory foam, which is specifically designed to cause a mattress to need frequent replacing, as created a boon for the industry and a nightmare for the consumer.
You have, essentially, stepped out of a time warp. So much has changed since 1979.
Reviews are solicited from people who have recently purchased, so that everything sounds better than it is. Most mattresses feel good when new.
Your mattress uses a Bonnell coil unit…large, heavy coils that are interlocking.
And while this was the strongest coil system ever made, it doesn’t take an engineer to know that those coils have significantly weakened over 43 years.
We specialize in mattresses that have no memory foam in them.
This will be key if you hope to make a successful purchase.
However, the Bonnell coils are almost never used today…and then in very inexpensive mattresses.
Most of today’s innerspring mattresses are made using an individually pocketed coil system…designed to contour to the shape of the body.
These are more comfortable, but not as durable as the Bonnell coils.
Upholster one of these with memory foam, and you end up with a junk mattress.
We had been a Sealy/S&F dealer for many years, but gave them up when Tempurpedic bought them.
That sent us to the industry trade shows to find higher quality alternatives.
It wasn’t easy to find mattresses without any memory foam.
The best of what we found is the Natura of Canada Greenspring mattresses.
The most comfortable of their four models is the ultra plush.
The primary upholstery used is Natural Talalay Latex…far more resilient than memory foam and the best upholstery material available for the last 100 years.
My wife and I have been sleeping on the Greenspring Ultra Plush for the last 7.5 years.
And despite each of us weighing more than 200 lbs., our mattress remains in like new condition.
It's very well made.
Since you’re used to top quality, that would be my recommendation.
Click on this link to view specifications and prices.
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