I am trying to decide between the Plush tight top or Medium Firm tight top Simmons Beautyrest.
I am a 110 lb., side/stomach sleeper, and my husband is 6', 200lb. side/back sleeper.
We do not want any memory foam, if possible as we both sleep hot.
From my research it seems both these models have memory foam.
There doesn't seem to be any other models for us to try out, that doesn't have memory foam.
I understand, from reading your blogs, that a latex topper will keep us from sleeping hot.
Does that really work?!
You bet it works...works well and lasts a long time.
Latex is the only product that you can buy, that more than pays for itself...as it also extends the life of the mattress.
The latex topper insulates you from the memory foam in the mattress, and allows you to sleep cooler.
When choosing a Simmons Beautyrest, it's imperative that you DO NOT opt for a "plush" model.
It will lose its shape quickly under a large man, as the gauge of wire used to make the coils of their plush models, is much thinner than the gauge of wire used to make the coils in their firmer models.
Go for the medium firm and add the soft latex topper.
What we recommend is the Simmons Beautyrest in Medium Firm.
Add to that, a Suite Sleep 2" Soft Organic Latex Topper.
When did mattresses get so expensive and so poorly made?!
I just can't believe what I've been through over the past year!
I had a mattress that I bought more than 20 years ago, which was perfectly fine all that time.
There a mattress store, here in LA, that advertises, "If your mattress is 8 years old, it's time to replace it".
And while my old mattress was still ok, I felt like it could be more comfortable, and it was so old.
So, I went to that store and bought a new mattress. WOW! What a Mistake that was!
Here I am, a year later and I've been through 3 mattresses, with the one I have now being the worst of them.
I get nothing but a run-around from the people at the store.
I shouldn't have to go through all this, given how expensive it was.
So, I went online to do some research, which, is where I found your blog.
I spent hours reading your posts. and now, thanks to you, I understand what the problem is.
What I don't understand is what happened and when.
All I want is a basic mattress without memory foam and without the fancy prices.
What would you recommend for an older couple, average size, with the normal aches and pains that come with age?
Thanks for any help you can provide, George and Emily
Hi George and Emily,
What happened, is corporate greed.
All of the name brand mattresses, that you could once trust to make a quality mattress, have been sold to investors.
That all happened about a half decade ago.
They all use memory foam to recoup their investment and enhance profits.
Memory foam was introduced about 20 years ago.
Memory foam is the only temperature sensitive upholstery material. It softens as it warms from your body heat.
As is softens, you sink into it. When you get out of bed, it returns to its original shape.
The selling point is that it conforms to your body and relieves all the pressure points. Sounds good, right?!
The reality is that memory foam is not very resilient to start with.
So, before too long, you're sinking deeper and deeper into it. After a year or so, you're sinking through it.
Being temperature sensitive, it sleeps hot../absorbing your body's heat and reflecting it back to you.
The gel they use to mitigate that heat, reaches its saturation point in about 4 hours.
Halfway through the night, you wake up in a pool of your own sweat.
The heaviest parts of your body sink further than the lighter parts.
As a result, you experience numbness in your hands and feet, as it reduces the blood flow to your extremities.
Once you've sunk into it, the natural alignment of your spine is lost.
If you already have a bad back, it's made worse.
If you don't have a bad back to start, and use a mattress like that long enough, you'll develop one.
After you realize that you have a bad mattress and decide to take advantage of the comfort exchange, you're faced with choosing from a sea of mattresses...all upholstered with memory foam. And the process starts all over again.
If your realization comes too late to exchange it, the memory foam returns once you get out of bed...close enough to its original shape as to meet the 1.5" sustained impression necessary to prevail in a warranty claim.
It's positively diabolical.
Memory foam is specifically designed to sell more mattresses, more frequently, to the same people.
AND, as if all that weren't bad enough, it off gasses the toxic chemicals from which it's made.
61 different chemicals are used, with formaldehyde and benzene being only two of the toxic ones.
Not only is it a lousy product, it's also a health hazard...just to add insult to injury.
There are memory foams that are planet based and don't off gas.
However, all of the other negative side effects still apply.
I remember the first commercials for memory foam, back when you could only buy it on QVC and HSN.
They pressed a hand into the foam, and when the hand was pulled back, a hand print remained in the foam.
I remember thinking to myself, "Who, in their right minds, would buy that?!".
Form an engineering standpoint, the lack of quality was obvious.
All of what transpired since, only highlights the power of advertising.
"Tell a lie long enough and often enough, it's perceived as the truth".
I apologize for the long winded response. But, your simple question begged for a comprehensive answer.
Getting to your needs, I have a mattress that many of my family members sleep on, including my mother-in-law.
It's surprisingly inexpensive, and equally surprisingly well made.
The mattress is the Wolf Tulah Plush Eurotop...Excellent Quality...supportive, comfortable and long lasting.
It has an individually pocketed coil system, which is designed to maintain the natural alignment of the spine.
The upholstery materials are latex and poly foams....NO Memory Foam.
Wolf is the nation's oldest mattress manufacturer, taht has been owned and operated by the same family.
The Wolf Family established this company in 1873. The Wolf Family owns and operates it today.
The Uno Smart adjustable base created by Magniflex is a product of German engineering that has been designed to provide our customers with the highest level of well-being with several benefits to ensure satisfied customers.
Shipping is free and there's no sales tax.
We recommend using a waterproof mattress protector with every mattress.
Keeping the upholstery materials clean and dry will extend the life of the mattress.
I wanted to ask for your help selecting a new mattress system for my wife and me.
We are currently moving from a queen to a king (more room to roll and not wake up the other).
Me: 6’2” 240 lbs
Her: 5’6” 210 lbs
Queen two separate bladder sleep number bed that we dislike.
We do have a mattress topper (wool 2” I think) that has made it livable the last 5 yrs.
I like firm, she likes softer, but not too soft to sink too much.
We both get relatively hot so the wool topper helped that too.
We do like the bounce typical of spring mattresses that we don’t have.
We also had a traditional mattress that had lots of different higher end coils that you couldn’t feel the other person.
We liked that too. Snoring, (nose strips help most of the time), but no other real back problems per se.
What we’re looking for:
King size, firm separate higher end coil/materials with latex topper.
Budget around 4k or so, assuming it’ll last >7 yrs.
We do like a higher bed so unless mattress/pad are >13” regular box is fine.
We have ordered a 4 poster king bed frame with wood cross supports.
I was considering a heavenly bed or one of the nicer hotel mattresses as I get a decent discount via Marriott.
No allergies, but I know down feathers aren’t good for her.
So, if you have a bed set you’d recommend including mattress full wrap protector and pillows with protector.
That would be appreciated. (usually get those at bed bath beyond or amazon)
Never tried a latex pillow so that might be interesting to try as well.
We are looking to make a purchase this week and appreciate the insight/recommendation.
Location is Leesburg VA 20176 and white glove option price would be nice to know as well.
Thank you, Rob
Hi Rob, Your email raised a question for me, concerning the 4 poster bed. There has to be more than just cross supports. There must be support up the center, (head to foot), with legs that reach the floor. So, it would be prudent to check on that. The mattress I’m recommending for you is the same one we sleep on at home. It uses an individually pocketed coil with the coils made of double tempered steel and natural Talalay Latex upholstery. The specifications of this mattress far exceed anything Simmons makes. Even their Heavenly Bed, hotel mattresses, are not made as well...using non-tempered coils and polyurethane foam. My wife and I are similar in size. Our mattress is, still, in like new condition after more than 4.5 years. What’s more, the cost doesn’t even come close to what you’ve budgeted and will outlast your 7 yr. mark. That mattress is the Natura of Canada Greenspring Ultra Plush. The support is quite firm, with a comfortable sleeping surface. We added a Pure Bliss 3” Plush latex topper to ours, due to my wife’s sensitive hip, which relieved her hip pain. Otherwise, it’s perfectly comfortable just as it comes. I would suggest holding off on purchasing a latex topper until you get the mattress. You may not need it. Here are links to that mattress and latex topper.
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