My 3 year old Simmons Beautyrest Plush Pillowtop mattress needs replacing.
It feels worse than the 20 year old Beautyrest that replaced it.
The store sent a man to inspect it, but they say it has normal body impressions.
So, instead of them replacing it, I have to buy a new one.
I'm never going to buy from that store, or another Beautyrest mattress ever again.
We aren't heavy people, so I don't understand what the problem is.
Anyway, we need a new mattress and I don't want to go through this again.
What would you recommend that won't do what this one did?
The problem is the memory foam in the mattress.
Your 23 year old Beautyrest had no memory foam in it, which is why it lasted so long.
All of the name brands have been sold to investors.
All name brand mattresses, and many others, are upholstered with memory foam.
Memory foam is specifically designed to cause a mattress to need frequent replacing.
Because the memory foam returns, after you get out of bed, the body impressions won't measure deep enough to prevail in a warranty, you are highly unlikely to prevail in a warranty claim...as you have discovered.
It's nothing less than diabolical.
You can, no longer, trust the mane brands to make a quality mattress.
You aren't alone. Most people are learning this lesson the hard way, as you have.
What makes the Beautyrest so popular and comfortable, is the individually pocketed coil system.
The coils contour to the shape of the body and maintain the natural alignment of the spine, which is good.
The raw steel, from which their coils are made, along with the memory foam upholstery, combine to make a poor quality mattress.
The mattress I recommend for you, is The Wolf Tulah Plush Eurotop model.
Are the Simmons Beautyrest two-sided, flippable mattresses?
How thick are they please?
We bought a Beautyrest in 1952 and used it for 20 years and it was still in good shape because we were religious about turning and rotating it.
No other mattress can compare.
Thank you, Betty
An awful lot has changed since 1952. In fact, almost everything has changed.
I was born in 1952...and I've changed quite a lot since then.
God took one look at what He had just created and said, "Never again!", and broke the mold.
The only thing that remains the same, in a Simmons Beautyrest mattress, is the individually pocketed coils.
In 1952, those mattresses were: two sided, button tufted, and upholstered with horse hair and cotton batting.
About 20 years later, the upholstery changed to polyurethane foam.
About 30 years later, they stopped using the button tufting.
About 50 years later, they began making them only one sided.
About 60 years later, Simmons was sold to an investment group, and they started using memory foam in some of their models....and now, all of their models.
About 65 years later, they switched to using all memory foam.
Today, there isn’t a Simmons Beautyrest mattress made, that will last for more than a few years, with the softer models lasting only a year or two.
And if you happen to be larger, heavier people, you’ll only get a few months out of them.
If you look online, at reviews for Simmons Beautyrest mattresses, you’ll see that they are no less than horrible.
You can blame most the decline in quality to the memory foam.
Memory foam is specially designed to cause a mattress to need frequent replacing.
But because the memory foam returns when you get out of bed, it is highly unlikely to prevail in a warranty claim. You simply must buy new.
Memory foam is the worst upholstery material ever invented.
It has created a boon for the industry and a nightmare for the consumer.
In fact, all of the name brands that you could once trust to make a quality mattress, have been sold to investors who are now using memory foam. Now not a one of them makes a mattress that's worth buying.
If you would like to buy a good quality, old fashioned, two-sided mattress that uses the individually pocketed coil system, and is upholstered with polyurethane foam...and containing No Memory Foam, let me suggest the Wolf Two-Sided Brolynn Mattress, which comes in 3 choices of comfort.
You'll want it in firm, if you want a mattress that feels more like the one you bought in 1952.
Back then, they only came in "Firm".
(Don't be fooled by the price. It doesn't cost a lot to make a good quality mattress)
It does, however, cost a lot in advertising to sell you a poor-quality mattress.
Click on this link to view specifications and prices.
Over the last 4 years, I have gone through 5 mattresses.
I've tried Tempurpedic, Sleep Number, Serta i Comfort, Sealy Posturepedic and Simmons Beautyrest.
All have made my back pain worse, despite all the salesmen telling me that their mattress will help.
I'm a large man, 6' 3", 250 lbs, with herniated disc that cause me back pain.
You were recommended to me by a friend, who bought a mattress from you.
They tell me that you know your what you're talking about.
I trust him, so I'll trust you.
To complicate the issue, my wife is somewhat petite. She's 5' 7", weighing only 135 lbs.
She likes a softer feel, which has always been a problem for me.
Can you help me find something that will be good for both of us?
Thank your friend for me, for the referral.
I can, in fact, help you...as I have helped many like you with similar circumstances.
First, the problem you've had, is with mattresses upholstered with memory foam.
Despite all the hype to the contrary, memory foam is the worst upholstery material ever invented.
Memory foam is a temperature sensitive material that softens as it warms from your body heat.
While comfortable, at first, it quickly loses its initial comfort and support, within months of purchase.
The key to a successful purchase, is avoiding any mattress made with memory foam.
The mattress I'm recommending for you, is the same mattress my wife and I sleep on, at home.
We are, both, over 200 lbs. I have Herniated discs, bulging discs, and DDD, (Degenerative Disc Disease).
Despite all that, I sleep and wake with zero back pain...pain I use to live with constantly.
This mattress uses a double tempered steel, individually pocketed coil unit, which maintains the natural alignment of your spine. This type of coil system is key to relieving your back pain.
The double tempered steel coils and latex upholstery combine to provide a mattress that does the job you want it to do, do it for a very long time, and be comfortable enough for the curves of the female body.
Our mattress is more than 5.5 years old, and still in like new condition.
That mattress is The Natura of Canada Greenspring Ultra Plush.
Click on this link to view specifications and prices:
I don't know if you are still offering advice on mattresses.
If so, we had been extremely happy with our Simmons Beautyrest Marquis, that's about 8 years old.
Over the last two years the plush topper gave way and had been causing extreme hip pain and back pain.
I am a larger side sleeper -- 6'1" 235.
Looking to replace this mattress we relied heavily on the latest Consumer Reports mattress review.
At first, we ordered the #2 mattress, Sleep On Latex Firm.
After sleeping on it, I felt like I had been hit by a bus.
I was actually considering going to the emergency room. I felt that bad.
My back hurt all the way around to my chest, shoulders, and neck....possible symptoms of a heart attack.
I decided to call Sleep On Latex instead and they offered to sell a 2" soft topper, that helped a little.
I still had hip and back pain upon waking. We ended up returning the firm but kept the topper.
Next, I decided to try the #1 rated mattress by Consumer Reports, Avocado Green Hybrid.
Their lead-time was stated to be eight weeks, so we slept (well) on the Simmons Beautyrest Marquis with the 2" soft topper while we waited.
Upon arrival we tried the Avocado Green without the topper.
Rather than having much hip pain I developed a pain right in the middle of my lumbar.
My wife, 5'4" 125, hated the mattress.
The next night we tried it with the topper without much better results, so we resorted back to the Simmons Beautyrest Marquis with the 2" soft topper.
Next, we went back to Sleep On Latex, but medium this time.
The boxes weighed 25 pounds less so we definitely received a less dense mattress.
First without the topper, then with. We're still not satisfied, or at least, I'm not.
Sorry for the long story but I wanted to make sure you knew some of the background.
I do miss when a person could go and try a mattress several times in the store, before buying.
Now they come in a box and you're stuck if you don't like them.
Avocado Green refuses to take it back until after 30 days or more of trying.
We already "returned" one to Sleep on Latex, so I feel bad doing it again.
I sure do miss the first eight years of the Simmons Beautyrest Marquis.
Any ideas for an appropriate replacement?
The Avocado mattress isn’t made to hold up under a large man.
The coils are too weak, made of very thin gauge steel.
Avocado advertises a 1 year trial.
They won’t take them back, to their credit.
They say if you donate it, they’ll get refund your money.
Sleep on Latex uses junk latex made in China, where they mix it with clay.
It’s promoted as all natural, since clay is a natural material.
Even if you were to buy a high quality latex mattress, any all foam mattress does not provide the pushback support needed to properly support most backs.
Consumer Reports is clueless, when it comes to mattresses.
In fact, they published an issue, some years ago, where they said that the mattress industry was far too complicated for them to understand, so the offered no recommendations. They must have caught some flack for that bit of honesty.
Six months later, they published an issue with recommendations after interviewing 100 people in Denver. Their recommendations were horrible.
Since then, they haven’t improved very much...still not comprehending the complexities of the mattress industry.
Before buying anything, flip your mattress over and add your topper.
These one sided mattress are much firmer on the underside.
It may be all you need to do.
If you decide that a new mattress is necessary, then I recommend the mattress my wife and I sleep on at home. We are, each, over 200 lbs. and I have a myriad of back problems.
Despite all that, I sleep and wake without back pain on a mattress that is more than 5.5 years old and still in like new condition.
The coil count is higher than most. The coils are heavy and strong.
The upholstery is natural Talalay Latex (not made in China).
That mattress is the Natura of Canada Greenspring Ultra Plush.
Click on this link to view specifications and prices.
I happened upon your web site researching non-toxic and/or organic mattresses (GOTS, GOLS, OEKO-TEX.
Our current mattress is 21 years old Stearns and Foster, so we need something very soon.
Did some shopping yesterday and was tempted by a $2800 medium Stearns & Foster as well as a medium $2200 Tempur-Pedic.
The salesman said they do not outgas any toxics, but I'm not sure I can trust that.
Buying the "right" mattress is definitely more difficult than buying a new car, especially if you're trying to avoid toxic materials and also get the right price, support, comfort, durability, warranty, etc.
It is a very daunting challenge with a dizzying number of brands and "models" to choose from!
I'm also trying to avoid buying without first seeing the mattress and lying on it.
Any guidance could be very helpful.
21 years ago, it was nearly impossible to buy a bad mattress.
Today, it's equally impossible to buy a good one.
Most stores are a sea of mattresses upholstered with toxic memory foam.
Memory foam consists of 61 different chemicals, some of which are highly toxic.
That includes Sealy, Serta, Simmons, Stearns & Foster and Tempurpedic.
All of the name brands have been sold to investors who are using memory foam.
Sleep Number and many off brands use memory foam, as well.
That salesman lied to you.
Best advice? Avoid any mattress upholstered with memory foam.
That will narrow your choices, considerably.
Keeping your mattress clean and dry will increase its longevity.
We recommend our Organic Cotton Waterproof Mattress Protector.
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