We still have our 1979 top-of-the-line “flippable" Stearns and Foster mattress.
The innerspring portion still exhibits no sagging, but my wife feels the pads have developed a lumpiness.
We are trying the highly-rated Saatva hybrid Classic on a 180-day trial, but find that it has already developed annoying “valleys” that conform to where we sleep.
My question for you is if your topper might possibly serve to eliminate the lumpy feel of our Stearns and Foster if we were to simply use it over the top of the Stearns and Foster built-in pad.
(We have retained the Stearns and Foster mattress in case we decide to return the Saatva.)
Of course, this would require that your topper retain the inherent Stearns and Foster firmness, while masking the Stearns and Foster lumpiness.
I look forward to your response.
I always get a bit of a chuckle when I hear the phrase, “Highly Rated”.
I assume you’re talking about Consumer Reports, an organization that knows little about mattresses.
Several years ago, they published an issue about mattresses where the stated that the mattress industry was far too complex for them to understand…and offered no recommendations as a result.
They must have gotten quite a bit of flack for that bit of unusual honesty, because 6 months later they published an issue where they made recommendations based on interviews with 100 consumers in Denver.
And despite my one unheeded attempt to help them, they still know squat about mattresses.
I’m sorry. I can’t help you.
A latex topper will make the surface of your mattress more comfortable, but it will conform to the mattress and will not do what you’re hoping.
And despite your belief that your coils are fine after all these years, I can assure you that that are not.
Thanks for the fast response.
Out of curiosity, in what respect are coils "not fine after all these years” if they are not sagging?
Is there something else I need to be looking for?
As for ratings, the Saatva seemed to come out on top in multiple reviews.
If you have other suggestions, I am all ears because we are not happy with the “valley effect” nor with the “heating effect,” and we are well within the 180 day trial period.
S&F had been considered “The Cadillac of the Industry” for decades…even after Sealy bought them in 1983.
That ended in January of 2014, after Tempurpedic bought the Sealy/S&F company.
In fact, all of the name brands have been sold to investors.
The focus is no longer on quality. It’s on profits…selling more mattresses more frequently to the same people.
Advertising is what now drives this industry…selling mattresses upholstered with memory foam, which is specifically designed to cause a mattress to need frequent replacing, as created a boon for the industry and a nightmare for the consumer.
You have, essentially, stepped out of a time warp. So much has changed since 1979.
Reviews are solicited from people who have recently purchased, so that everything sounds better than it is. Most mattresses feel good when new.
Your mattress uses a Bonnell coil unit…large, heavy coils that are interlocking.
And while this was the strongest coil system ever made, it doesn’t take an engineer to know that those coils have significantly weakened over 43 years.
We specialize in mattresses that have no memory foam in them.
This will be key if you hope to make a successful purchase.
However, the Bonnell coils are almost never used today…and then in very inexpensive mattresses.
Most of today’s innerspring mattresses are made using an individually pocketed coil system…designed to contour to the shape of the body.
These are more comfortable, but not as durable as the Bonnell coils.
Upholster one of these with memory foam, and you end up with a junk mattress.
We had been a Sealy/S&F dealer for many years, but gave them up when Tempurpedic bought them.
That sent us to the industry trade shows to find higher quality alternatives.
It wasn’t easy to find mattresses without any memory foam.
The best of what we found is the Natura of Canada Greenspring mattresses.
The most comfortable of their four models is the ultra plush.
The primary upholstery used is Natural Talalay Latex…far more resilient than memory foam and the best upholstery material available for the last 100 years.
My wife and I have been sleeping on the Greenspring Ultra Plush for the last 7.5 years.
And despite each of us weighing more than 200 lbs., our mattress remains in like new condition.
It's very well made.
Since you’re used to top quality, that would be my recommendation.
Click on this link to view specifications and prices.
Sealy was purchased by Tempurpedic in 2013...and no longer makes that kind of mattress.
Okay, so now the 6 million dollar question.
Could that mattress, always covered by it’s own Sealy fabric covering, which is fraying a bit at the edges, exposing the latex, but then covered by a basic, non waterproof bed pad protector (not sure what you would call it), then a sheet, contribute in any way to a latex allergy?
Does the latex ever really get airborne either with particulate or odor?
(not sure if that would be a problem…odor)?
Thank you, David
Yes…due to how it wears.
Latex starts as the sap from the rubber tree.
Included in that sap is the allergen…the protein that is naturally present.
When processed into foam, about 90% of the protein is removed, rendering it hypoallergenic.
(Not so with latex gloves and bandages)
When new, there’s nothing about it that you could react to, as it’s covered.
As it ages, latex dries out…crumbling into dust, eventually.
Latex foam has holes in it, from the pins in the mold used to make it.
As it ages and crumbles, those holes fill up, making it firmer.
The particles can escape from a worn cover.
That mattress has long exceeded its life span.
So, my mother has a latex allergy, I believe. She has been wheezing for years.
And because she recently, noticeably reacted to eating bananas with wheezing and labored breathing, I stopped the bananas, but she was still reacting.
Found out about the connection with latex and some foods, so stopped the avocados and things improved dramatically.
But then it hit me last night about that damn mattress she has been sleeping on for 50 years!
The mattress is good in terms of its comfort level as my parents were not large people etc.
Is there a zip around cover you can recommend that can essentially encapsulate this mattress to keep what’s inside, inside and make the latex, for sure, a non issue?
That would be a logical next step. Zipper-on mattress encasements are available at places like Bed Bath & Beyond.
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I am looking for a long lost Simmons Beautyrest Signature Recharge Collection Mattress.
However, I see it may have been discontinued in 2017, give or take.
I am in hopes that you could help me find the new equivalent to the Simmons Beautyrest Recharge Collection “Cape Breton Recharge Plush.” Preferably in a King or California King.
Any and all help would be grateful.
Good Morning Benjamin,
That mattress disappeared in 2017 because Simmons was sold to an investment group in 2016.
That same investment group also bought Serta.
3 years earlier Sealy and S&F were purchased by Tempurpedic.
All of these major brands, along with many others, have switched their upholstery to memory foam for the sake of higher profits.
Memory foam is specifically designed to cause a mattress to need frequent replacing, and not under the terms of the warranty.
So now, they are selling more mattresses more frequently to the same customers.
Besides being a poor quality product, memory foam sleeps hot and off gasses the toxic chemicals from which memory foam is made, creating a health hazard.
Their focus on profits at the expense of quality, makes them a complete waste of money.
There is no equivalent from Simmons.
To make a successful purchase it is imperative that you buy a mattress with no memory foam in it.
We specialize in mattresses that have no memory foam in them.
We had been a Sealy/S&F dealer for many years prior to Tempurpedic buying them.
That sale sent us to the industry trade shows to find higher quality products.
Almost all of the mattresses that we carry have the same type of coil system that you’ll find in a Simmons Beautyrest…individually pocketed coils, which contour to the shape of the body and maintain the natural alignment of the spine. It’s this type of support that made the Beautyrest so comfortable and popular.
None of our mattresses have any memory foam in them.
If you would like a recommendation, then let me show you the mattress my wife and I sleep on at home.
It's more than 7.5 years old and still in like new condition...and we aren't small people.
The Natura of Canada Greenspring Ultra Plush.
(Not as soft as it sounds due to the high quality of the components)
Click on this link to view specifications and prices:
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