I don't know if you are still offering advice on mattresses.
If so, we had been extremely happy with our Simmons Beautyrest Marquis, that's about 8 years old.
Over the last two years the plush topper gave way and had been causing extreme hip pain and back pain.
I am a larger side sleeper -- 6'1" 235.
Looking to replace this mattress we relied heavily on the latest Consumer Reports mattress review.
At first, we ordered the #2 mattress, Sleep On Latex Firm.
After sleeping on it, I felt like I had been hit by a bus.
I was actually considering going to the emergency room. I felt that bad.
My back hurt all the way around to my chest, shoulders, and neck....possible symptoms of a heart attack.
I decided to call Sleep On Latex instead and they offered to sell a 2" soft topper, that helped a little.
I still had hip and back pain upon waking. We ended up returning the firm but kept the topper.
Next, I decided to try the #1 rated mattress by Consumer Reports, Avocado Green Hybrid.
Their lead-time was stated to be eight weeks, so we slept (well) on the Simmons Beautyrest Marquis with the 2" soft topper while we waited.
Upon arrival we tried the Avocado Green without the topper.
Rather than having much hip pain I developed a pain right in the middle of my lumbar.
My wife, 5'4" 125, hated the mattress.
The next night we tried it with the topper without much better results, so we resorted back to the Simmons Beautyrest Marquis with the 2" soft topper.
Next, we went back to Sleep On Latex, but medium this time.
The boxes weighed 25 pounds less so we definitely received a less dense mattress.
First without the topper, then with. We're still not satisfied, or at least, I'm not.
Sorry for the long story but I wanted to make sure you knew some of the background.
I do miss when a person could go and try a mattress several times in the store, before buying.
Now they come in a box and you're stuck if you don't like them.
Avocado Green refuses to take it back until after 30 days or more of trying.
We already "returned" one to Sleep on Latex, so I feel bad doing it again.
I sure do miss the first eight years of the Simmons Beautyrest Marquis.
Any ideas for an appropriate replacement?
The Avocado mattress isn’t made to hold up under a large man.
The coils are too weak, made of very thin gauge steel.
Avocado advertises a 1 year trial.
They won’t take them back, to their credit.
They say if you donate it, they’ll get refund your money.
Sleep on Latex uses junk latex made in China, where they mix it with clay.
It’s promoted as all natural, since clay is a natural material.
Even if you were to buy a high quality latex mattress, any all foam mattress does not provide the pushback support needed to properly support most backs.
Consumer Reports is clueless, when it comes to mattresses.
In fact, they published an issue, some years ago, where they said that the mattress industry was far too complicated for them to understand, so the offered no recommendations. They must have caught some flack for that bit of honesty.
Six months later, they published an issue with recommendations after interviewing 100 people in Denver. Their recommendations were horrible.
Since then, they haven’t improved very much...still not comprehending the complexities of the mattress industry.
Before buying anything, flip your mattress over and add your topper.
These one sided mattress are much firmer on the underside.
It may be all you need to do.
If you decide that a new mattress is necessary, then I recommend the mattress my wife and I sleep on at home. We are, each, over 200 lbs. and I have a myriad of back problems.
Despite all that, I sleep and wake without back pain on a mattress that is more than 5.5 years old and still in like new condition.
The coil count is higher than most. The coils are heavy and strong.
The upholstery is natural Talalay Latex (not made in China).
That mattress is the Natura of Canada Greenspring Ultra Plush.
Click on this link to view specifications and prices.
I’ve referenced it for a long time, but this is the first time I’ve seeked your advice.
Usual story, my husband and I have purchased many mattresses. It’s become a joke with my friends.
We find a mattress, it's great for a year and a half, or so, and then aches and pains galore.
So, our most recent mattress is a Purple 2. Loved, loved, loved it for the first year.
Then as with most plush toppers, it lost the comfort and support.
And now, the body impressions are very apparent.
My husband is 230lbs 5’11” I am 5’5” 200lbs. I sleep on my back for most of the night, always in one position. Occasionally, but not much, on my side due to hip bursitis. My husband is a side and back sleeper.
I recently purchased a Dunlop latex 3” topper. Nice and plush but I still feel the indentations.
I thought I liked a bit more firm than my hubby, but now I think my body aches want a little more plush.
Hubby likes plush. He’s also had some lower back problems.
In reading your advice to others, I am considering these 2 mattresses.
Can you tell me if I’m on the right path, or if there is something else, you’d recommend?
I prefer an innerspring with a soft top. So, the Greenspring Liberta Plush or the Ultra Plush appealed to me.
I thought the Plush would be a medium firm and I could add my latex topper or should we go for the Ultra Plush?
How can I tell if my foundation needs to be replaced?
As with most people who come to you, I’ve wasted a lot of money on mattresses and the BUCK has gotta stop here.
I look forward to your reply. Thank you for your time, Kimberly
Good Morning Kimberly,
Given your sizes, you can be assured that your current foundation is worn.
To what degree, is unknown.
However, If you were to buy a mattress and put it on your old foundation, you will immediately void the warranty of the mattress. That would be true of any mattress.
As you can see by the cost difference between the set and mattress only, you'll save little and risk much.
You are on the right path for your choice of mattress.
My wife and I are, very much, the same size as the two of you.
I have a great number of disc related back problems...diagnosed 18 years ago.
My wife has a sensitive hip.
We have the Natura of Canada Greenspring Ultra Plush at home.
Due to the high quality of the components, all of the Greenspring mattresses are firmer than their comfort designation make them sound...especially when compared to what you can normally find in stores.
Because it is not as soft as it sounds, we have added a 3" Plush Latex Topper for my wife's hip.
We've had that mattress for 5 years.
It is, still, in like new condition.
I sleep and wake without back pain.
I recommend the Natura of Canada Greenspring Ultra Plush mattress for you and your husband.
Magniflex Adjustable Bed Base. The Uno Smart adjustable base created by Magniflex is a product of German engineering that has been designed to provide our customers with the highest level of well-being with several benefits to ensure satisfied customers.
Use the latex topper, that you already own, on top.
The low profile 5" foundation is the one to get.
This mattress comes with white glove delivery, which includes set-up in your bedroom and removal of your old set..
Delivery is free and there's no sales tax.
While you wait for it to arrive, flip your mattress over and add the latex topper to that flip side.
We recommend using a waterproof mattress protector with every mattress.
Keeping the upholstery materials clean and dry will extend the life of the mattress.
I've asked this question of many different people in the mattress business and rarely get the same response from any two of them.
I've already been stung, a few times, by following all the hype in the TV commercials I see and by listening to the advice of salespeople, who clearly have a personal agenda.
Nothing I've purchased in the last 5 years has lasted for more than a year.
Granted, I'm a big guy, (6', 225 lbs), but not so big that it's impossible for me to find a mattress durable enough to remain comfortable for more than a year.
I've begun to regard the mattress industry, and the people who work in it, with the same degree of disgust as I did with used car salespeople years ago.
I've spent several hours, (usually in the middle of the night), reading your advice on your blogs and website, and hope against all hope, that I've found the one honest person left.
So I ask you, what's the best mattress...one that will last long enough for me to get my money's worth?
Your time is greatly appreciated, Mark
Your assessment of the mattress industry is correct.
I sold my first mattress 45 years ago and was happy to work in an industry that strove to offer high quality mattresses that lasted for 10-20 years...even those mattresses that were among the least expensive.
Value for the dollar had always been there.
Manufacturers used to compete with one another in terms of quality...each trying to outdo the others to make a better mattress.
Years ago, a factory rep would come to the stores and pitch their products to the salespeople...pointing out the features of their mattresses, the benefits they provided, and why theirs was a better product and a better value.
Today, it's all about what sells easily and no talk of quality exists in their salespitches.
What happened to you comes as a huge surprise and disappointment to those who are stepping out of the mattress time warp....those with mattresses that are a dozen years old or older...before everything started going down hill.
The "Corporate Greed" that has affected many of our national industries, hit the mattress industry about 12-20 years ago...slowly, at first, going from two-sided mattress that you could flip, to one sided mattresses.
Along with the now half mattress, came the marketing hype, advertising that "You didn't have to flip your mattress anymore"...leading the consumer to believe that nothing else had changed.
In further attempts to deceive the public, the warranties were lengthened from 10 years to 15, then to 20, to 25 and to Lifetime.
As you may have noticed, those warranties are basically, worthless.
It was shortly after the mattresses went one sided, that they began using, in their mattresses, the diabolical product that allowed them to extend those deceptive warranties and suffer no consequences from them. That product is memory foam. It's the reason why you've had the issues you've had...the same issues that millions of people are having.
Memory foam is a temperature sensitive product that softens as it warms from your body heat.
It allows you to sink into it, which feels fine at first, but becomes less than fine within only months of purchase, as it quickly loses its support and comfort.
The diabolical part is that it will return to its original shape when you get off of it...so that you will hardly ever prevail in a warranty claim that requires a sustained impression of 1.5", 2" or 3", depending on the manufacturer.
Memory foam has many negative side effects.
It sleeps hot, you can change position without waking up, and it's difficult to get out of the bed.
These negative side effects are merely the annoying ones. There are also dangerous ones.
Memory foam consists of many chemicals, some of which are toxic.
When you mattress containing memory foam is delivered, it has a bad odor, which the sales people in the stores will tell you will go away if you air it out.
Benzene and formaldehyde are but two of the several toxic chemicals used.
The side effects range from headache to burning eyes to bleeding sinuses.
The toxic fumes attack your respiratory system.
God help you all, but especially those who have breathing problems, like asthma or COPD.
You have to understand that we are now talking about an industry, that cares so much for the profit boon they have been experiencing, that they are willing to sacrifice your health for their gain.
However, you should all be used to it by now. That's how they think.
You'll object, at first and for a while, but then those who remember what it means to buy a quality mattress will die off and all that will be left are those who heads are full of their deceptive advertising...their propaganda.
Ever since the mattress industry started going bad, we've been working toward cleaning up our little corner of it. We've rid ourselves of most of the name brands, which were the first to betray the consumer...playing off of their decades old good reputations.
The only one we have left of them is the Simmons Beautyrest, because of the value in their coil system and because the memory foam they use is plant based...not as temperature sensitive and not toxic.
In fact, my wife and I home tested a Beautyrest for 4 years....then gave it to our son and his wife, who have had it for the last 4 years.
We used a latex topper with our Beautyrest mattress, which has saved the mattress from premature wear and has provided surface comfort that is extraordinary...surface comfort that has lasted all these years without change.
Your question was, "What's the best type of mattress?"...and I apologize for taking so long getting to the answer, but it was important for you to know why you had experienced the problems you had.
It's important for you to know that you're dealing with an industry that has, basically, turned on you...with name brands that have been sold to investors, that can no longer be trusted to make a quality product.
The best upholstery material on the planet is latex. There's nothing new about that.
Latex was first discovered in the 1880s and was introduced as a mattress material in the 1920s.
Latex comes from the sap of the rubber tree. You may remember the term "Foam Rubber".
There are many latexes out there today.
Some, like the original Dunlop latex and the later Talalay Latex, are available all natural.
Since becoming more popular in recent years...actually delivering on all those promises that the makers of memory foam made...and fell far short on, lots of other types of latexes have become available.
Synthetics and natural latex with fillers, like clay.
Yes. Even in the world of latex, you have to be careful of what you're buying.
Generally, you only have to beware of latex made in China.
The fillers they use cause the latex to wear quickly.
The giveaway is the price. Chinese made latex is much cheaper...in quality and price.
The best type of mattress is an all natural, chemical free, filler free, latex...like in the old days.
We have acquired several lines. The best known and most popular is Pure LatexBLISS. Their line consists of 2 sections...their "Natural" line, which is a blended latex consisting of 70% natural and 30% synthetic latex. (Synthetic latex is a molecular clone of natural latex. No harmful chemicals are used to make it).
My favorite is Natura, a Canadian company using natural latex...and at a decent price point.
Latex is expensive because it's expensively made...unlike memory foam that is cheap to make and scammed as expensive.
Not everyone can afford an all latex mattress. Nor, is an all latex mattress right for everyone.
An excellent quality mattress, a much better value, and the one we sleep on, at home, is:
The Natura of Canada Greenspring Ultra Plush.
The support comes from an Individually pocketed coil system that is better than most...using stronger coils and a high coil count. The surface comfort comes from 3" of Natural Talalay Latex.
We've had this mattress for 4.5 years. It is, still, in like new condition....despite the fact that each of us are over 200 lbs.
It provides excellent support, comfort and longevity....everything you're looking for.
Restore energy and vitality with the Liberta Firm Mattress…(aka: Lily. Laurel, Liberty). Healthy helpings of natural wool and latex paired with a supportive coil unit provide a cozy, affordable eco-haven for sleep.
This mattress is plenty strong enough to support heavy people for many years.
Add to this, a Pure Bliss 3" Plush Natural Talalay Latex Topper.
We have a Simmons Beautyrest TruEnergy Bryanna Plush Eurotop mattress manufactured 10/19/12.
I am 5’7” and 135 pounds. My husband is 5’10” and 210 pounds. We are both predominantly side sleepers.
I now wake up sore through my shoulders, upper, and lower back and am always tired.
My husband wakes up muscle sore, more so in the lower back.
If he’s out of town, I wake up less painful because I don’t spend all night rolling towards him as the mattress is indented by his weight.
What would you recommend?
Could we flip this mattress and use the latex topper and be okay?
Should we get a whole new mattress? If so, what would you recommend?
Our previous mattress had inner coil and a pillow top (but before the foam stuff came out).
It was a great mattress that lasted like 15 years.
I have been so disappointed in this new mattress, because it wasn’t cheap and hasn’t lasted well at all.
I’ve been painful and tired for at least a year.
I also have sleep apnea (mild) during REM sleep.
The doctor recommended putting a foam wedge between the mattress and the box springs to help, which we did. This mattress was uncomfortable even before that. Now we just slide down the bed all night, too.
We appreciate your help and expertise.
Your current mattress is upholstered with memory foam, which is the source of all your problems.
Your previous mattress had no memory foam, which is why it lasted so long.
Flipping your mattress and adding a latex topper is, certainly, an option.
I suggest the Pure Bliss 3" Plush Natural Talalay Latex Topper...shown here:
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