George writes:
Hi Pete,
I don't know if you are still offering advice on mattresses.
If so, we had been extremely happy with our Simmons Beautyrest Marquis, that's about 8 years old.
Over the last two years the plush topper gave way and had been causing extreme hip pain and back pain.
I am a larger side sleeper -- 6'1" 235.
I sure do miss the first eight years of the Simmons Beautyrest Marquis.
Looking to replace this mattress we relied heavily on the latest Consumer Reports mattress review.
At first, we ordered the #2 mattress, Sleep On Latex Firm.
After sleeping on it, I felt like I had been hit by a bus.
I was actually considering going to the emergency room. I felt that bad.
My back hurt all the way around to my chest, shoulders, and neck....possible symptoms of a heart attack.
I decided to call Sleep On Latex instead and they offered to sell a 2" soft topper, that helped a little.
I still had hip and back pain upon waking. We ended up returning the firm but kept the topper.
Next, I decided to try the #1 rated mattress by Consumer Reports, Avocado Green Hybrid.
Their lead-time was stated to be eight weeks, so we slept (well) on the Simmons Beautyrest Marquis with the 2" soft topper while we waited.
Upon arrival we tried the Avocado Green without the topper.
Rather than having much hip pain I developed a pain right in the middle of my lumbar.
My wife, 5'4" 125, hated the mattress.
The next night we tried it with the topper without much better results, so we resorted back to the Simmons Beautyrest Marquis with the 2" soft topper.
Next, we went back to Sleep On Latex, but medium this time.
The boxes weighed 25 pounds less so we definitely received a less dense mattress.
First without the topper, then with. We're still not satisfied, or at least, I'm not.
Sorry for the long story but I wanted to make sure you knew some of the background.
I do miss when a person could go and try a mattress several times in the store, before buying.
Now they come in a box and you're stuck if you don't like them.
Avocado Green refuses to take it back until after 30 days or more of trying.
We already "returned" one to Sleep on Latex, so I feel bad doing it again.
Any ideas for an appropriate replacement?
Thanks, George
Hi George,
The Avocado mattress isn’t made to hold up under a large man.
The coils are too weak, made of very thin gauge steel.
Avocado advertises a 1 year trial.
They won’t take them back, to their credit.
They say if you donate it, they’ll get refund your money.
Sleep on Latex uses junk latex made in China, where they mix it with clay.
It’s promoted as all natural, since clay is a natural material.
Even if you were to buy a high quality latex mattress, any all foam mattress does not provide the pushback support needed to properly support most backs.
Consumer Reports is clueless, when it comes to mattresses.
In fact, they published an issue, some years ago, where they said that the mattress industry was far too complicated for them to understand, so the offered no recommendations. They must have caught some flack for that bit of honesty.
Six months later, they published an issue with recommendations after interviewing 100 people in Denver. Their recommendations were horrible.
Since then, they haven’t improved very much...still not comprehending the complexities of the mattress industry.
Before buying anything, flip your mattress over and add your topper.
These one sided mattress are much firmer on the underside.
It may be all you need to do.
If you decide that a new mattress is necessary, then I recommend the mattress my wife and I sleep on at home. We are, each, over 200 lbs. and I have a myriad of back problems.
Despite all that, I sleep and wake without back pain on a mattress that is more than 5.5 years old and still in like new condition.
The coil count is higher than most. The coils are heavy and strong.
The upholstery is natural Talalay Latex (not made in China).
That mattress is the Natura of Canada Greenspring Ultra Plush.
Click on this link to view specifications and prices.
This mattress comes with white glove delivery, which includes set up in your bedroom and removal of all packaging materials.
Delivery is free and there’s no sales tax.
Trying before you buy at a store is a total waste of time, these days.
Most stores are a sea of mattresses upholstered with memory foam.
Memory foam is highly deceptive, as it feels quite a bit different a month later.
Memory foam is THEE thing to avoid, as it is specifically designed to cause a mattress to need frequent replacing...not to mention the toxic off gassing from the chemicals used to make it.
Memory foam presents a health hazard, as well as being a lousy product.
All of the name brands have been sold to investors.
All are using memory foam to recoup their investment and enhance profits.
Brands like Simmons, Sealy, Serta and S&F that you could once trust to make a high quality mattress, no longer care about quality...just profits.
Thanks, Pete
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