I've been looking at Simmons Beautyrest Black mattresses in my area.. The Ava luxury Firm was softer than I thought it would be. For some reason, I expected it to be firmer and I couldn't tell if I was sinking into it too much or not.
And I found the Alexia to be just a tad too firm. Also, I'm not sure if he was lying or not, but one salesman told me he's had several returns on the Alexia from people who found it too firm, but has never had someone do a comfort exchange on the Ava luxury firm. Do you think the Ava in luxury firm would be firm enough for us? We are, each, average size people.
Thanks for your help.
Many comfort exchanges are made because of extremes...too firm or too soft.
The luxury firm Ava, new, will be firmer than the floor sample, but will wear to feel like it eventually.
I suggest using a latex topper with it, so that the memory and poly foams inside remain like new. 1.5" of medium latex will do that job.
It's the perfect solution for you. Here are the link to that mattress. and the latex toppers. Delivery is free and there's no sales tax.
I have two questions - one is about Wolf mattress delivery. I understand that they are rolled to be shipped. Can you please verify whether or not they are first stored in the warehouse already rolled? (I ordered one somewhere else that was 50% covered in mildew because they were stored pre-rolled.) Second is about the Forever Foundation - what does the term "KD" mean? And where is the link to a video for assembly demonstration? Thank you. Laurie
The Wolf mattresses are not stored pre-rolled. I have not encountered any problems with their merchandise.
KD means "Knocked Down"...meaning that you need to assemble it. An instructional video is not available, as yet.
However, we've sold many of the Forever Foundations and no one has come back to me with questions about the assembly.
It does come with instructions that are easy to follow. The assembly is easy, too.
I have had scoliosis since I was 14. I have an S curve and recently discovered that I will have to have spinal fusion surgery. What mattress would you recommend that will help me both to sleep prior and after the surgery?
People I've know and customers I've had with scoliosis, seem to feel better on a firm...stiff, mattress.
Lying on their backs with a pillow under the knees.
The surface of this type of mattress can be softened with a latex topper...to varying degrees of softness and thickness, without sacrificing the underlying firm support.
My suggestion would be to start with the mattress and see how much cushioning you need before buying a topper for it.
The mattress that does the best job of being what you need and staying that way over many years, is the two-sided Therapedic Keepsake Cameo Firm.
Here is a link to that mattress and a link to the latex toppers.
Hi Pete, I currently have a double-sided pillow-top Simmons Beautyrest Mattress, which I am not unable to replace at the moment. I have used a feather bed, but found that it has now fallen completely out of shape now and moreover, since I am in my early 50's I am now sleeping much hotter and sweat often at night.
I have read your suggestion about a latex topper, but not sure if that would work for a pillow-top mattress, also does the Danican mattress protector work for me? Lastly, does the latex topper just get laid on top of mattress and then I place the fitted sheet over that? Not sure on the layering of all of these items.
Your advice would be welcome.
If the feather topper worked, so will the latex topper. The difference being that the latex topper is maintenance free. It doesn't need to be fluffed up and won't flatten out on you. I would suggest the 2" soft Talalay latex mattress topper. It is the most popular and does a fine job of providing long lasting surface comfort.
The Danican waterproof mattress protector fits over everything. It is waterproof on the top and sides, and will not shrink.
What's more, it sleeps cool...unlike other brands of waterproof mattress protectors.
Hi Pete, Can you please give me an idea of prices for your latex mattress toppers in a queen size. Do you have any recommendations for good mattress set, without a lot of frills, that would work well with a latex topper to give good support for a female back sleeper with some mild low back and hip issues. Thanks for your website info, a good resource. Noel
Our most popular mattress/topper combo is the Simmons Beautyrest World Class in luxury firm with a 2" soft Talalay Latex mattress topper.
The combination sleep system provides firm contouring support that is designed to maintain the natural alignment of your spine and provide surface comfort that is luxurious without being too soft.
The queen size 2" topper is $349.99 That mattress set is $1479.00.
Figure on 2 weeks for delivery. Delivery is free and there's no sales tax.
Hi. I went to Macy's and tried the Edenton and the Oceanside. I liked the firmness of the extra firm Oceanside but am concerned the floor model may be softer than what may be delivered, should I buy. I like a firm mattress. The floor model Edenton luxury firm was a bit saggy and soft. How do you get a true comparison. My husband and I both have back pain and are side sleepers that need support.
Hi Susan, Your observations should speak volumes to you...more than any other information you can gather. Those floor samples are less than a year old, with them only being tried and not slept in. What you've seen is how unevenly the best mattresses can wear. My wife and I have an older version of the Simmons Black Edenton luxury firm.. We weigh approx. 225 pounds each and the mattress looks and feels like new. How is this possible? It's possible because we took precautions. From the beginning, we've used a 2" latex topper on it...a removable pillowtop. Latex is the most comfortable and resilient material on the planet. The topper absorbs most of our weight and that relieves the stress on the padding in the mattress. The coil system of the Black models is very strong. Together with the topper, they provide all the support, comfort and longevity we need and want...regardless of your sleeping position(s). Of course, it helps to have a complete working knowledge of the mattress industry. Most people don't. So, instead of countless years of personal study on the subject, you can't simply take my advice. (it's a whole lot easier). Go with the Oceanside, called Alexia on our website, and add a latex topper for comfort that doesn't quit in a few years. It's the only way around keeping what you saw from happening to you. Here are the links. Delivery is free and there's no sales tax.
My husband and I are plush size people, with me at around 300 pounds and my husband closer to 400 pounds.
We are sick and tired of buying mattresses. We go through them so quickly, it's getting to be ridiculous.
I've been reading your blog and the information I found there tells me that you have a mattress that will hold our weight and last for more than just a year.
Your blog takes me to the 2 sided Therapedic Medi-Coil Ultimate Permatuft. But, there are two of them...firm and plush.
If I go with the plush, will we still need a latex topper to soften it?
The short answer is, maybe...maybe not.
It would depend on your idea of comfort.
The plush is not all that plush...certainly not as plush as most mattresses that carry that designation.
It takes the edge off of the firm model, which is downright hard.
You have to understand that these mattresses were designed and engineered by me to support extraordinary body weight in a world where no other mattress will do that job for any length of time...as you have discovered.
We've had these mattresses on the market for the last 5 years, with our heaviest customers exceeding 500 lbs....and, with zero complaints.
They are built to last under extreme conditions....more for support than comfort.
Whenever there is a couple involved, we recommend going with the plush. It may be enough cushioning for you.
If not, adding a latex topper is the best way to achieve long lasting comfort.
In the past, we had been recommending using 2 toppers...both 1.5"...one soft Talalay under one Dunlop.
Recently, the Dunlop has become available in a softer version, so one 3" soft Dunlop will be all you'll need for surface comfort that you will enjoy for many years.
Here are links to both products. Delivery is free and there's no sales tax.
I've finally circled back around to getting a mattress and just want to double check with you now that I've read much of your website and have a slightly better understanding of what my needs are.
To be clear (because I did not give you any details last I wrote):
I am 5'4" approx 200 lbs. My weight changes a lot (hopefully down soon but can't be sure).
Boyfriend is 5'11" aprrox 175 lbs. His weight rarely fluctuates more than a few pounds.
His problem is that he has a hard time falling asleep and then staying asleep for more than a couple of hours.
I have a host of medical problems and am in the bed quite a bit. Seriously. A LOT. I have daily migraines and autoimmune issues which leave me with achy joints and the pressure on my hips is uncomfortable (and pressure on areas of previous broken shoulders (left and right!) add to my discomfort. As if those medical issue aren't enough - I'm also in bed with depression sometimes too (pain can be debilitating). He, on the other hand is basically "normal." But he is a college sports coach and can get achy back, knees and joints sometimes too.
The plan is basically to compare the 2 mattresses listed below. And then also order the 2" Talalay Latex Topper - or whatever you specifically recommend for the topper for us.
1. Beautyrest Black Queen Ava Luxury Firm (now called Edenton at Macy's, correct? I want to lay on it before I place my order with you)
2. Beautyrest Black Queen Alexia Extra Firm (I'm hoping it's available to test at Raymour and Flanigans)
Please let me know whether we would do better with the Ava/Edenton or the Alexia. Or if you think there is something else I should consider. And exactly which Topper you feel might be best.
Finally, my sister is actually planning to order the Beautyrest Black Hope this week (she didn't follow my recommendation to contact you). I seem to recall that you are not as bullish on that mattress. She and her husband are short 5'1" and 5'6" respectively and over 200 lbs. Please let me know if this is a mattress I should be considering too. I seem to recall you saying somewhere in the blogs that the Hope is not the way to go. But I may be wrong. My sister has lots of joint and hip issues too.
Thank you again, and again. Your expertise, and kind suggestions and explanations make mattress shopping more manageable!
The Simmons Beautyrest Black Kate model has an extra layer of coils, which are 1.5" thick.
It will have more give because of those coils. And given that your condition is at such a high degree of sensitivity, you might want to give it a try before deciding.
Normally, we don't recommend going to that expense, as few people have your compilation of physical issues.
But still, that mattress will require a 2" Topper of Soft Talalay Latex for it to keep its shape.
A 1.5" coil isn't very strong and the upholstery used in the mattress, (the poly and memory foams), will take body impressions in very short order.
Your sister will need a latex topper also, if she has any expectations of keeping that mattress for more than a few years.
I would only recommend the Hope for you, if after you tried it and your body reacted positively to it.
Otherwise, the Ava luxury firm is the way to go. The Alexia is much firmer...too firm to overcome with just a latex topper.
Your weight does not demand that you go to the Alexia.
While trying these at Macy's, each model has a different name...as you know.
Alexia = Oceanside
Ava = Edenton
Hope = Laralyn
Sears & R&F may not have all the models. Both have the same names as us.
Your boyfriend has an issue that is not solved with a mattress. Although, being comfortable, (with pressure points relieved, blood flowing freely and muscles relaxed), does help.
The sleep system you're getting does all those things.
Difficulty in falling asleep and staying asleep comes with age...as opposed to how easy it was to fall asleep as a child.
By "age", I don't mean old. As adults, we take on responsibilities that we don't have as children. His condition is mostly due to stress, or simply having too much on his mind.
As he ages, however, his brain will produce less Melatonin.
I'm 62 years old, and I have this same problem...an over active brain....mostly thinking about our website and how to make it more informative and easier for people to navigate.
I take a combination of Melatonin and Valerian Root. It helps quite a bit.
Here are links to the Black Line and to the Latex Toppers
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