Hi Pete,
My wife and I are needing to replace our mattress.
And me being a research fanatic, I found your site, AND LOVE it, and all you've educated us with!
A million thanks for your well-written documentation, and frankness.
Your "need to know" page is the BEST ever!
Apologies in advance for such a long email!
Here's our situation, followed by the usual questions you receive from all of us.
In 2008 my wife and I bought our very first expensive mattress, and we have LOVED it since day one!!
13 years later, for the most part, we still love it today, but its body divots are a bit much.
We need to replace it. We bought a queen Simmons Beautyrest Black, Executive (paid about $2,800).
You can confirm if my memory serves me or not, but I recall stats on this bed were something like...around 2,000 coils(?), latex, sides covered in cashmere.
There is ZERO jiggle when the other gets into or out of bed, or when turning.
We bought the thinner box spring for it. We are now 63 & 66 and we still sleep VERY comfortably in it.
We want to replace it with the same type/firmness of bed.
Given all that you've written, we only want another bed with similar, if not exactly the same design....a ton of coils, and latex. NO MEMORY FOAM. Cost is not an issue.
I weigh 195 (6'-0"ft), and she weighs 135 (5'-4"). I sleep 85% on sides, 15% back.
She sleeps 5% side, 95% back. I have no body aches/pains.
My wife has minor aches/pain in lower left back and left hip.
So far, it looks like the Natura of Canada Greenspring pocketed coil & latex may be a match?
I don't know if the Firm or Luxury Firm is the closest match to our Beautyrest Black?
We have the old metal frame.
We have a head board with storage doors (yes, it's from the 80's), and if both the Greenspring mattress and foundation are 12" each, that will put the mattress high for the headboard.
Question: if both are 12" high, can the foundation/mattress sit directly on the floor?
Does the warranty require the mattress/foundation be ON a frame, or is the carpeted floor OK?
Is either OK?
Q: Was the latex in our 2008 Beautyrest mattress Talalay or Dunlop?
Q: What do you think about Greenspring as a match, and if so, which one?
Q: If not Greenspring, what brand/type do you recommend to be closest to our Beautyrest Black?
Thanks very much for your time and expertise, and if you have any questions, please ask.
Gary & Melody
Good Morning Gary & Melody,
That was an excellent quality mattress, but now, it’s gone.
Simmons still makes a “Black” Beautyrest, but since being sold to investors, they’ve switched to memory foam upholstery.
The motion reduction comes from the individually pocketed coils, which all move independently from the others. The coil count depends on how you look at it.
Some fuzzy math was involved. In a queen size, there were 900 pockets.
The coil “density” was 1000, which meant that 1000 pocketed coils would fit, had it not been for the foam encasement around the perimeter of the mattress.
Each pocket had one wire co figured into two coils…hence the 2000 coil count.
The Natura of Canada Greenspring is the highest quality mattress I was able to find while shopping at the industry trade shows.
The coil count in queen is 1020…using heavy gauge double tempered steel.
Beautyrest coils for a plush model uses thinner, non-tempered steel.
There was a little latex in yours, a little memory foam and mostly poly foam.
The Natura mattress is mostly latex and a little plant based poly foam.
Due to the high density and quality of the components, the Ultra Plush model is the most comfortable, without being too soft.
That’s the one my wife and I sleep on at home, and it's our most popular mattress...with zero complaints.
Ours is several years old and still in like new condition, despite the fact that we are each over 200 lbs.
The Ultra Plush is the model I recommend for you.
Click on this link to view specifications and prices.
The mattress is 13.5" thick. Order the 5" foundation to go with it and keep your frame.
White glove delivery is free and there’s no sales tax.