My parents own a mattress that has a memory foam section on top. The thing is, after having it only a few months, it has conformed to each ones shape in the place they sleep and yet in the middle is this huge hump that never goes down.
How could they have avoided this from happening?
Thank you! Julie
All mattresses take a body impression eventually. Memory foam does it quicker. A plush pillowtop?...almost immediately.
The latex topper will retard that process.
For instance, my wife and I have had a Beautyrest mattress for 4 years. With it, we have a 2" soft Talalay Latex topper.
With each of us weighing 225 lbs...the mattress is still in like new condition...thanks to the latex topper.
Your folks can get a latex topper for their mattress. For best results, flip the mattress and then add the topper.
Also, if they have a king size...and I'm betting they do, because the hump up the middle is common...have them rotate the mattress 1/4 turn on a regular basis.
Doing this will allow the mattress to settle more evenly.
Here's the link to the latex toppers...they come in a very nice zippered on cover...free delivery & no sales tax.
I bought a Sealy Newport Beach Reflexion king size mattress almost 10 years ago. The mattress is sagging a bit on my side of the bed and my wife’s side of the bed.
We find the middle is very comfortable, but the sides are not. We spin it every 6 months or so but that only makes a difference for the first night or so.
I measured to see if the sag was 1.5” inches, but it is not. Are we at the end of life on this mattress? Would it help to put some plywood over the box spring to firm it up? I saw one of your blog posts where you told someone to flip it upside down to help give it new life, will that work with this mattress?
One of the reasons we bought this mattress was because of the longer life I thought latex would give us. Anything we can do to help extend it would be great.
It's the poly foam on top of the latex that is sagging, not the latex under it.
You can absolutely salvage several more years out of what you have.
Flip it over to the firm latex side and add a 2" soft Talalay latex mattress topper. It'll feel the way the Newport felt when new, without having to worry about the poly foam compressing.
This works like a charm and you've just saved yourself a ton of money on a new mattress.
Here's the link to the toppers. UPS delivery is free and there's no sales tax.
I am looking for a 2 sided mattress that does not have memory foam in it. What do you have to offer? Also, does the Beautyrest Black have memory foam in it and are they only 1 sided? I need a bed that doesn't allow a lighter person to roll toward a heavier person because they are making a bigger dent in the bed.
We carry a number of 2 sided mattresses. None, of which, have any memory foam in them.
I just found your website and would appreciate your advice mattresses:
1. Sleep Number beds. Do you recommend their mattress for someone with back stiffness issues. Also, do these beds last? I have heard mixed reviews.
2. I am also considering Serta Sapphire Suite, double sided plush bed. I slept on their "presidential" suite II bed recently, and it felt really good. Can you let me know your views on these hotel flippable beds?
3. I do love latex, and am glad you recommend latex - but I am not sure about buying a all latex bed. I shopped for those first, but have not bought, they are very pricey, especially the Talalay latex which I like.
My current Simmons firm pillowtop is causing me back pain and I would like to find a bed that is great quality, does not sag, or impress, will last, and feels great for my back, and does not cost an arm and a leg! (I am hoping to spend about $1000.00 or at most $2000). Is there such a mattress out there?
Thank you very much for your advice. I hope to hear from you soon as I would like to put an end to what seems like an endless search for a good mattress.
I can call you if you prefer.
I don't recommend an air mattress to anyone. It provides zero upward support and will aggravate any back problems you may have.
Sleep on one long enough, and a back problem will develop where none existed.
Serta's two-sided mattress is a low end model and cheaply made.
The best is an all latex mattress, as you know. And, you're in luck. I spend a lot of time and energy in finding high quality products to offer, and at various price points.
Our Ever-Eden, all natural, all latex mattresses are made of pure latex...no chemicals, no fillers & no synthetics. The core is made of Dunlop latex and it's topped with Talalay Latex.
The prices are very reasonable, with the sacrifice being the delivery, which is UPS. There is no sacrifice in quality. So, if you can handle a UPS delivery, you can save quite a bit of money.
The most comfortable of them, by most accounts, is their 9" model.
If these are still more than you want to spend, scroll down the page and you'll find their Latex Hybrids. These are Dunlop Latex topped mattresses, supported by a core of high density Polyurethane foam. While lower in price and not the same quality as the Dunlop core, they are still, far better than either of the two mattresses you mentioned.
What is up with this hump that runs up the middle of our king size mattress?
Several months ago, my husband and I decided to treat ourselves to a bigger bed, so we up-sized from a queen to a king.
We're getting a little older and thought the extra room that a king size mattress provided was sooo luxurious.
To add to that extra luxury we were looking for, we opted for an expensive name brand pillowtop mattress, that Consumer Reports recommended.
Now, I wish I had my queen size bed back.
There are body impressions where we sleep and a hump that runs the length of the mattress up the center, which is only slightly visible but way easy to feel.
For the first time in our lives, we are experiencing back pain and we are sleeping hot.
We are not big people. We are more on the slender side of average, which makes this all the more perplexing.
I can't tell you what a huge disappointment this mattress has been. We spent a lot on it and can't afford a new one for a while.
Is there anything we can do about this?
Let me, first, go over the list of mistakes you made with this purchase, so that you don't repeat them when the time comes to buy again.
1) A pillowtop mattress will lose it's shape very quickly. They are such a major problem, that we've eliminated pillowtop models from our website.
Even though we have them available for sale, we will not take an order for one...as it is not good for our customers.
2) Shopping for mattress based on acquiring a "Luxury Feel". The mattress industry is geared to take full advantage of the consumer's propensity to indulge themselves in luxury.
While comfort is important, taking that extra step to "Luxurious" when it comes to a mattress is, by and large, a huge mistake.
A mattress should be though of as a utilitarian product, that provides firm support for your spine and surface comfort for your joints and muscles.
This combination provides the best night's sleep. A luxury mattress provides what you now have...nothing but problems.
3) As of 12 years ago, name brand mattress manufacturer's made the conscience decision to move from offering high quality products to lesser quality products, which would result in more sales, because mattresses would need to be replaced more frequently than the 10 to 20 years they had been lasting. At first, this took the form of making one-sided mattresses instead of the two-sided mattresses they had been making for the several decades prior. Since going one sided, they began using memory foam...in just a few models at first, and not very much, to using it in all their models to the point of using quite a lot of it.
Memory foam produces an initial, very comfortable, luxurious feel that does a great job of making the sale, which it seems, is all anyone cares about these days.
Memory foam is a temperature sensitive material that soften as it warms from your body's heat. Once softened, you sink further into it. As time goes by...and we are talkng about months, not years...you sink further and further into it until you can feel that the memory foam has lost its support and comfort.
This particular product is designed to be deceptive...comfort that makes the sale but doesn't last.
You would think that company using such a crappy product would suffer from all the complaints and the mattresses that would then need to be replaced.
This, is the diabolical thing about memory foam and the industry's subsequent reaction to it. Even though you can feel that it's bad and you sink in so much as to now be uncomfortable to the point of throwing off the alignment of your spine and suffering the back pain that is a consequence of that, when you get off of it, the memory foam returns to its original shape...or close enough that you are highly unlikely to prevail in a warranty claim, which requires there to be a 1.5" sustained impression when no one is one the mattress.
That 1.5" impression is the criteria that had been used for decades when there were no temperature sensitive products, like memory foam. Today, most still use that same 1.5" as a criteria to obtain authorization for exchange, while other mattress manufacturer's have gone to as much as 3".
This has worked out so well for the mattress industry, that all of the name brand manufacturer's have extended their warranties from the 10 years, which had been the standard warranty length for decades, to 20 and 25 years, with some offering a lifetime warranty. This creates the illusion in the consumer's mind that it's must be a better product.
The average consumer fails to realize that the warranties are all but worthless...and that they are being suckered in by that...which is the intent of the name brand manufacturers.
And if you think that all that is bad enough, hold on to your hat, because there's more bad stuff.
Just to add insult to injury, memory foam is also a health hazard. Comprised of 61 different chemicals, memory foam off gasses the toxic chemicals that are included in its make- up....chemicals like Formaldehyde and Benzene....just to name two of many. You can detect this when it's delivered. That horrible smell is more than just that. Those chemicals are airborne and affect living creature in your home, except for the fish. The most common negative side effect is headache. The gasses also attack your respiratory system. It's very bad stuff.
4) The thing that Consumer Reports does not yet understand, is the temperature sensitive nature of memory foam. They have machines that test its pressure sensitivity and the results are good under those conditions. They are not adding heat, as your body does in home use. Their conclusions are all wrong, as a result of this omission.
It was only a few years ago, when Consumer Reports declared that the mattress industry was far too complex for them to understand. Six months later, they published another mattress issue where they interviewed 100 people in Denver, and based their recommendations on those interviews. Since then, they acquired the antiquated machines that they now use to test mattresses. Consumer Reports has become the mattress industry's unwitting accomplice. I find it hard to believe that they are misleading the consumers intentionally. Like they said, the mattress industry in extraordinarily complex and they still don't understand it.
5) The way your mattresses is wearing, with that hump up the center, is the nature of a king size mattress. While, as many others are up-sizing from queen to king, my wife and I are down- sizing from king to queen. The hump in our mattress is only slight, as we have used a latex topper with it from the beginning. Still, meeting in the middle is getting to be a chore and not nearly as much fun as it had been. We are, however, upgrading from an innerspring mattress to an all natural latex mattress....something you should consider when you are ready to replace that mattress. We have ordered and are awaiting a Natura brand Bourdolay model.
That all said, you have a problem that you must deal with.
First, would be to add a thin layer of a medium firm latex foam. Latex is and has been the best upholstery material available for the last 100 years. It won't straighten out your wavy mattress, as it will conform the the shape it has now. It will do two things...provide you with a slightly firmer sleeping surface. Yours is too soft.
It will also absorb much of your body weight, which will retard the further wear of the mattress. For your purposes, I would suggest a 1.5" Dunlop....shown here:
I've just learned that the 20 year warranty of my sagging mattress is null and void.
I just bought this expensive hunk of junk less than a year ago.
Oh, it felt sooo good when we tried it in the store. Shortly after my comfort exchange period had lapsed, it started to show body impressions.
Here it is, almost 11 months after purchase and the body impressions are more than 2" deep. My back is killing me and my wife will finish the job if I don't get this straightened out.
They sent an inspector to look at it and he wasn't here long. If you look at the mattress from the side, you can detect a very slight perspiration stain on each side...something I nor my wife had noticed until he pointed it out. Like I said, it is only slightly visible. He saw it right away and informed me that my warranty would be void due to the stain.
I immediately called my retailer, who told me the same thing and that there was nothing he could do for me, short of selling me another mattress.
After finding your blog and seeing how incredibly knowledgeable you are about mattresses and the mattress industry, I decided to write you to see what trick may be up your sleeve.
Thank you for taking the time. Ralph
If you knew how much time I've spent, over the years, arguing with the customer service people at one mattress manufacturer or another, you'd wonder how I've had time to do anything else.
Each manufacturer's warranty has in it, a "Stain Clause"....and it is as written in stone, as if it were one of the 10 Commandments.
I've had situations where there has been a small dime size stain in a mattress that was nowhere near the affected area...only to be faced with a deaf ear from the service department.
Your case, however, is quite different.
Most of the upholstery in today's mattresses, (memory & poly foams), aren't very good to begin with...as you can attest to from the wear you saw with your mattress.
Introduce moisture to those products, and they break down even more quickly.
Your perspiration stain, along with the spilling of other liquids, is why the stain clause is so carefully written into the warranties.
Refusing to service a mattress with dime size stain in an unaffected area, is the manufacturer's way of getting out of servicing their products, if you ask me.
And believe me, they all will use any excuse, which is why I don't believe is selling the warranty, as I believe them to be all but worthless.
That said, had your mattress been upholstered with all natural latex foam, instead of memory & poly foam, you wouldn't be writing to me today and this would never have been an issue.
All natural foam rubber, does not easily break down when it gets wet.
Your body goes through temperature cycles when you sleep....heating up and cooling off several times during the night.
Mattresses are not cheap. You'll want to protect the next one you buy from the fate your current one has suffered.
You can do that with a waterproof mattress protector.
With those, the problem has been that they cause you to sleep hot. The most popular brand is topped with terrycloth, which sleeps like you've died and gone to hell.
Until recently, it's been impossible to find a waterproof mattress protector that doesn't sleep hot.
Almost 2 years ago, as we were perusing the bi-annual furniture trade show, we came across a Danish company who professed to have such an item...a waterproof mattress protector that sleeps cool. Of course, I didn't believe them...as taking mattress people at their word is almost always a foolish thing to do.
Upon expressing my skepticism, they asks me what size mattress I had at home, they handed me one and told me to take it home and try it. And then said, "We'll see you back here in 6 months for your order"....a display of confidence that seemed more genuine than just the usual BS.
So, we took it home and used it. It was obvious, from the first, that it did, in fact, sleep cool.
It is made of silver infused all natural cotton.
So, for the next 6 months, we put it through its paces, laundry speaking. My wife washed it frequently, twice a week, in hot water and dried on high heat.
Besides sleeping cool, it doesn't shrink...easily fitting over our mattress and latex topper, which measures 15". In fact, it will fit up to 18"....and, it doesn't pop off.
So, if you buy one of these waterproof mattress protectors, you will, never again, suffer the fate you suffered this last time.
Here is a link to those. Delivery anywhere in the US & Canada is free, and there's no sales tax.
We have a Sealy Reflexion Newport Beach mattress we would like to replace; I believe it is about 10 years old. We had a sagging, innerspring mattress and with age it was causing problems with my back / hip (side sleeper to start - stomach in morning). While I liked the mattress, my wife thought it was to firm. I weight about 145 and she is about 210. The other problem is that as we age, it seems to be ‘hotter’ resulting is waking in perspiration and disrupted sleep; while not as bad as memory foam (travel) it is not as cool as the basic innerspring we had. We also note depressions which from your blog are due to a non-latex foam layer under the quilted top I noted you recommend the Simmons Beauty Rest Alexia or Ava innerspring as a base (it appears both have foam layers though) plus adding a latex topper (soft). Based on research, it seems a pillow top is not a good option for softness and after reading agree that that layer will compress / shift with time. What do you recommend to minimize the ‘hot feeling’ of latex (from the topper), that is, get the prior innerspring only cool, cotton sheet feel? Is there something you can place on top of the latex topper? I recall the older mattresses had a wool layer underneath the quilt that dissipated heat. Thank you and your website / blog have been educational. Only wish we did not live in Indiana and so far from your store. Timothy
No worries about the store. That was lost in a fire back in 2009. We started our on-line presence in 2003 and we have been strictly an on-line retailer since 2009....
...serving the entire US & Canada.
You have an incorrect assumption that latex sleeps hot. It does not. My wife and I have been using the same 2" soft Latex topper for the past 6 years. It's still like new, after all that time, and has never slept hot. Latex sleep cool, naturally.
The Simmons Beautyrest Black holds up well under heavy body weight...if you use a latex topper with it. The latex insulates you from the memory foam, makes the mattress more comfortable, and greatly slows the wear of the memory and poly foams inside.
If you want to mimic what we have, it would be the Ava luxury firm and a 2" soft Talalay latex topper.
Hi, I am a side sleeper with a bulging disc at waistband level bulging on the right side I think. Most of the time it doesn’t bother me. I read on your site that a more firm mattress seems to be best for a bulging disc person but since I sleep on my side, my shoulder and sometimes my hip hurts when I have had a firmer bed in the past. My current bed (a Serta perfect sleeper super pillowtop grandis) has started to sag and I'm now waking up with LOTS of back aching from kidneys to mid back on either side of the spine 90% of the time (maybe 100%) I sleep on my right side, rarely on my back and never on my stomach. My current bed has been fantastic for the hip and shoulder aches but I'm most worried about comments I read on your site saying that if I have too soft of a bed I could get a Herniated disc from bulging So I'm looking for the best mattress for that situation. Side sleeper with bulging disc. I'm 5'9" & 222 lbs.
Thanks, DJ I have a mattress that provides firm support and a comfortable sleeping surface. It won't sag, like your Serta, as it is much higher quality. It's a two sided mattress that you'll flip. Made by Therapedic, it's the Cameo in plush...shown here:
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