My wife and I are ready to replace a 4 year old King Size Simmons Beauty Rest Elite Plush Firm “Copacabana.” You were very kind and helpful emailing and answering our questions with us in the past even though we didn’t buy our mattress from you. We’re going to repay that by buying our new mattress from you now.
The Simmons Beauty Rest Elite has been awful. There’s a hump in the middle with 3+ inches of deflection where we sleep. In the middle of the night I feel like the coils are popping through and shifting. Rolling over in the middle of the night is a choir. In the morning I wake up and feel as though I went 10 rounds with Mike Tyson. It’s hard to even get out of bed. Back, shoulders, legs – everything hurts. My wife and I have had it with this mattress.
This will be our 3rd mattress in 5 years. I’m willing to try anything you suggest. We’re in our early 40’s fit and trim I’m 6’2” and my wife is 5’4”. We prefer a firmer mattress and do not want pillow top or anything chemical smelling. My wife initially wanted to go with a sleep number, something heated with dual adjustment etc. but is deferring to sensibility and overall satisfaction which I convinced her we would get with you.
We like the size of the king mattress but feel the hump in the middle was caused mostly by the fact that we really don’t use that part of the bed. We don’t have a fancy headboard/footboard so there's no need to stay with the King if you think the same will happen. What’s the next step. Can you recommend something?
Before considering buying a new mattress, you should explore the warranty claim process.
The criteria for attaining authorization to exchange, in terms of body impressions, is a sustained impression of 1.5" or more.
Yours is now 3". The other thing to look for is stains...any kind or size stain will void that warranty. So, look it over. If there are no stains, call the retailer where you bought it, and have them initiate a warranty claim for you with Simmons.
There's little point in buying a mattress when you can get one for free....or for only the $150 delivery charge.
If you take this route, feel free to email me along the way, should you have any questions.
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We’ve decided to buy a new mattress with frame and latex foam topper. Can you give us a price quote or should we just call? We’ve decided to follow your recommendation for Simmons Ava with topper and the underbed storage frame (King). Macys is having their Labor Day sale and they have the Simmons Edenton, that I think is the same as the Ava. They quoted us $2,037 for Edenton Luxury Firm mattress only delivered.
Can you tell me what the price would be from your store with the mattress, topper and frame delivered? I should add that we live on Bainbridge Island, a ferry ride from Seattle, so not sure if that is a delivery issue. The bedroom is up a narrow staircase and we would definitely need it delivered up to our bedroom as we could not physically handle it.
Please let me know. I appreciate your help.
A queen Ava luxury firm, Mattress Only, is $1844.
White Glove delivery is free...to the bedroom, set-up, and old mattress removed.
Also, there's no sales tax.
The latex topper...2" Soft Talalay, which is what we recommend with that mattress...is $349.99 and arrives UPS.
Hi, Peter. I'm back! Well, my husband decided to get a new mattress. But now we have gone from one extreme to the other. He picked an extra firm one and I feel like it's like sleeping on a slab of concrete. No give at all, despite what seemed like some cushion on top in the store. I toss and turn, can't sleep on it. We have an option of trading it in for another within 45 days, but hubby would prefer not to just yet. Do you think a latex topper would help? Would it make enough if a difference?Which one? Is the topper placed under a mattress cover or would that damage the topper? I appreciate your input. Toni
Hi Toni, Buying a too soft mattress is thee most common mistake. Over correcting to a too firm mattress is the 2nd most common mistake. So you can take solace in the fact that you're not alone. The 2" Soft Talalay Latex topper I recommended to you will work on your new mattress, and work well.
My current mattress is about ten years old, & may or may not be worn out. It has a very expensive adjustable base that is exceptionally heavy. It was hand made by a specialty mattress company in Dallas, Texas about nine or ten years ago, but was not slept on for around three years. It has a mattress topper that seems to be perfectly all right.
My friend has a bed that I tried sleeping on that is much more firm than mine, & it hurts worse than the softer one. I believe that my mattress is too soft, but I believe that the base with the box springs is fine. The sides of the mattress on top of the base to not have enough support on the edges. When I’m awake, it feels like the top mattress on the (around the edges) is leaning towards the floor. I realize that this does not affect how I sleep, but it may be information that is useful to you. As a stop gap measure, I bought a memory foam topper for the harder bed, & although I sink into it, I still wake with pain in my left hip. I moved the same memory foam topper to the softer bed & I felt like I was sinking into a swimming pool.
Memory foam is absolutely worthless....a temperature sensitive material that softens as it warms from the heat your body gives off, allowing you to sink through it.
Latex foam is the original foam rubber, an all natural product that is not temperature sensitive. and will hold you up, not allowing you to sink.
Use a 2" soft Talalay Latex topper for the harder bed, and a 2" Dunlop topper to firm up the softer one, and your problems will be solved.
You've had the right idea, just the wrong materials.
My husband and I are looking to put a topper on our way too firm (fairly new) mattress. We were thinking 2" soft Talalay but want your opinion. I am 5'5"/135 lbs and he is 6'1"/220ish. I am very hippy and we both have issues with our shoulders when we're on our sides. Is 2" good or should we consider 3"?
My wife and I have been using a 2" soft Talalay for many years. We are larger people.
It has done a nice job for our aches and pains...similar to yours.
We recently added another layer...less for her hip and more for our shoulders...each suffering from a bone spur in that area.
I believe you will benefit, as we have, from the 3"...especially at the shoulder. This will also benefit a slender female with wide hips.
I currently am sleeping on a Tempur-Pedic Cloud. I have degenerative disc disease with has resulted in mobility in lower back involving also involving right SI joint. I start out sleeping on my back and later, roll to my side. I've noticed that when I shift or move, I feel movement in my back which results in pain. It feels like I'm sleeping in a bowl of dough! My husband complains too, but sleeps ok.
I find myself relocating to the guest bedroom. it feels better on my lower back, but makes my shoulders and neck stiff. I am interested to see what type of mattress you would recommend for these issues. Thanks! Gale
Memory foam, the main ingredient in a Tempurpedic mattress, is the worse thing to buy. PERIOD. Even worse if you have back issues, as it will make them worse.
All this in stark contrast to the sales pitch that helped you make that purchase.
However, you may not need a new mattress.
The memory foam on top, is supported by high density poly foam.
Simply flip the mattress over and use the underside. Your back will thank you.
The underside isn't likely to provide the surface comfort you want, but it does have good support.
To make the surface comfortable, add a 2" soft Talalay Latex topper. Latex is far superior to memory foam. It will provide surface comfort that you can't get from any other type of upholstery material.
It take many years to wear out and won't negate the underlying firm support of the mattress.
You might consider getting one for your guestroom mattress too. It'll take care of that shoulder.
Here is the link to those. Delivery is free and there's no sales tax.
Wish I had seen this column before making our purchase! My wife and I bought a Serta iComfort mattress set.
We have been sleeping on it for approximately 30 days, and after only this short time we have to returned it (she slept good on it, but I have pain in my lower back almost to the point of tears). During this process with a "reputable" retailer in the northeast, we came across a few traditional mattresses, but I felt they were way over-priced (simmons beautyrest legend firm, a S&F, and a Sealy Hybrid). Not knowing how good these mattresses would stand over time, what would your recommendation be? I prefer a firmer mattress (I'm 6', 175 lbs) and my wife says she can sleep on anything (she's 5'5", weight not allowed to be disclosed-but she's light...). I'm also on active duty in the military, so I don't sleep in my own bed 100% of the time-but for the times I do, I want to get the best sleep I can. Thanks for any advice! Eric
Hi Eric, Reputable in quotations. You've either checked with the BBB and your state's attorney general's office and "reputable" is sarcasm...or, you haven't checked. I can't tell. Anyway, the Legend is their "big profit" model...and way over-priced. The Sealy Hybrid isn't something that we recommend spending your hard earned money on.
You'll find that the end result with that mattress will be very similar to your Serta iComfort experience....as both are loaded with lots of memory foam. Sealy/S&F was purchased by Tempurpedic in 2013. The S&F line was changed in 2014 to include lots of their memory foam, as well. In short that are very few mattress on that "Reputable" retailer's floor that is any good...every one has memory foam...and plenty of it.
There is one that is their least objectionable....which is one that we have,as well, and recommend often. However, we always recommend using a soft latex topper with it.
In their store, it's called the Simmons Beautyrest World Class Shakespeare in Luxury Firm. We carry it by the model name "Santorini".
Here a link to that model on our website, so that you'll know what a discounted price on that mattress should be. (Your retailer is the one of thee highest priced retailers in the country)
Add to that, a 2" soft Talalay Latex topper, which will provide long lasting surface comfort, while the mattress provides the firm contouring support your back needs.
You will, both, be very comfortable...and, the mattress will last a lot longer than the manufacturer intended due to the latex topper...which is not only comfortable, but the most resilient material on the planet...the best you can buy for the last 100 years.
Here is a link to the latex toppers. They come in a very nice cover. Delivery is free and there's no sales tax.
Hi Pete. I'm looking for a full size mattress for my son who is 12 so would like it to take him through his teens etc. He currently has a perfect sleeper twin I believe it is firm, but not too firm like a rock. Would like to get him a nice full size comfortable mattress that is priced well. no box spring needed Thanks, Gail
The best buy for him is a mattress made by the Wolf Company. Their Adrian model is a very high quality mattress, using the heaviest coil unit and upholstered with natural latex.
Both components are extremely resilient and the latex provides long lasting comfort.
Normally, this would not be so reasonably priced. But because it ships via FedEx, a lot of unnecessary ship costs are saved.
FedEx delivery to you is free and there's no sales tax. It's the perfect choice for a growing boy....and it will still be an excellent guestroom bed when he's grown and gone.
Here is the link to that mattress. You can order it on-line.
Hi Pete, We’ve decided to buy a new mattress with frame and latex foam topper. Can you give us a price quote or should we just call? We’ve decided to follow your recommendation for Simmons Ava with topper and the...
Lynne writes: Hello Peter, My current mattress is about ten years old, & may or may not be worn out. It has a very expensive adjustable base that is exceptionally heavy. It was hand made by a specialty mattress company...